
I watched a minimum of "pregame" coverage leading up to the debate - I'm still setting up my new Dell laptop, which is what I'll be furiously typing my live blogging comments on tonight during the debate.
It looks like they are about to get started - here we go...
9:00: Hmm - the candidates just came out, and the reception was a lot more cordial than the stand-offish McCain's demeanor toward Obama last Friday.
And I'm wondering if it's any accident that a mic picked up Palin saying to Biden, "It's so nice to meet you - can I call you 'Joe?'" Phony.
9:01: Not much time for formalities - Gwen Ifill gets right to it, about the economy. Biden's response was pretty crisp and straightforward.
9:03: Palin sounds pretty smooth and rehearsed, and of course we get a "soccer mom" mention in her response to Biden. She's already overdoing it - to listen to Palin, if the country had only listened to McCain, we wouldn't be in this mess. Hogwash.
9:04: Biden is now reminding listeners about McCain's characterization that "the economy is strong" - the first jab of the night.
9:05: Palin sounds beyond rehearsed when she's ready for Biden's reminder about McCain's goof about saying the economy is strong, and inside of one minute, she says "Maverick" twice, and she just winked at the camera. I've been won over - I've been all wrong.
9:07: Now Palin is blubbering on about the economic crisis, and in doing so, she mentions "Joe Six-Pack" and "Hockey Moms." If I hear "Hockey Moms" one more time... I was just looking around for a 6' length of rope, or a gun, but unfortunately, I couldn't find either to use on myself *Snicker*, so I must go on listening.
9:12: Now Palin is really walkin' on the wild side - "Barack Obama voted for the largest tax increase in U.S. history" - I'll have to come back to that one. Another falsehood - "Barack Obama supported increasing taxes for families making $42,000." Biden comes right back at her, saying the charge if "absolutely not true." And Biden also comes at her about "not answering the question about deregulation."
9:15: Palin just said, with a straight face, "I may not answer the questions that way you would like or the way the moderator would like, but I'm going to talk about my track record as a governor and as a mayor." Wow, talk about leaving yourself wide open - I hope Biden gets to it at some point tonight - she left Wasilla in debt, and she was and is the queen of pork in the entire U.S.
9:17: A question about class warfare - that's straight out of the GOP playbook.
9:18: A modern-day Reagan with boobs and make up - Palin just said, with a straight face, that "government isn't the solution, government is the problem." I've said it a million times - why would the American people put a party in power that despises government? (And then, wonder why the government is hopelessly screwed up.) And Palin herself even just admitted as much, saying, "We don't want to put the government in charge of anything considering how things have been running lately."
The government has been largely run by Republicans during the last eight years!!
9:21: Biden, in response to some Palin mischaracterizations, specifically about the McCain healthcare plan "the ultimate Bridge to Nowhere" - easily the line of the night so far. I'm glad that Biden is hitting the fact that McCain is planning to tax people's healthcare plans that they get through their employers.
9:23: Now Palin is accusing Barack Obama of giving the tax breaks to the oil companies. Talking point alert: Palin just called it a Rescue Plan - it's not a
Rescue Plan - it's a
Bailout Plan, Period.
9:25: Biden is talking about a
Windfall Profits Tax - good, because McCain, and all Congressional Republicans are dead set against it, and it was defeated in the Senate earlier this year.
9:27: I can't help it - the first patently absurd, bullshit alert of the night - Palin is talking about how McCain sounded the alarm that Fannie and Freddie needed reform. Hmm - she's leaving herself and McCain open to a few haymakers here - how about the fact that McCain's campaign manager's company was taking money from Freddie up until about five weeks ago.
9:30: The question was about bankruptcy, and Palin gave a one-word answer, and then reverted to something she wanted about her and McCain's energy plan. And she's absolutely full of it when she's talking about "energy independence." We have three percent of the world's oil reserves - we cannot, under any circumstances, drill ourselves out of foreign oil dependence.
9:30: And now she's using code words for global warming deniers - "the cyclical temperature change" - GOP GW deniers rejoice, without question.
9:31: Palin's answer on global warming is by far her lowpoint of the night thus far - she has absolutely no idea what she's talking about when she talks about how much America pollutes, and what our capabilities are.
9:34: Biden had better kneecap Palin on her absurd statements on energy - she absolutely has zero credibility here - she has none, and I don't care if she's the governor of Alaska or not. And the natural gas pipeline she's talking about is going to take many, many years to be operational - it's not a solution now, and she knows it. Wait, maybe she doesn't? Palin just took Biden to task for not supporting a domestic solution to our energy problems. That's because THERE ISN'T ONE, hockey mom. She just left herself open to a right cross, and Biden lets it pass. That's leaving points on the table.
9:37: Now Palin is trying to skirt around the issue of gay marriage - TOTAL, unadulterated bullshit, period. I'll have more on this after the debate. She's been the member of a church that actually prays for curing homosexuals. Minus to Biden for saying that he and Obama don't support gay marriage like heterosexual marriages. That's sad.
9:41: On to foreign policy - Palin looks and sounds like a robot, repeating McCain talking points about "winning" - I would give my eye teeth to hear Biden (and Obama!) say that "we already won the war, but we are losing the occupation."
Palin just haltingly said, "Your plan... is... the white flag of surrender." Every American should be offended at such rhetoric. It's shameless and pathetic.
She's also sounded mindlessly rehearsed when she says that Obama and Biden want to cut off funding for the troops, and blah blah blah. She just ends another feckless attack by saying, "That's another story." I was waiting for the
Inside Edition logo to appear on the screen.
9:45: I smell a GOP talking point - a question about Iran and Pakistan. This is Biden's strength - Biden's talking about the "central front in the War on Terror" and how a next possible attack will come from the "hills of Afghanistan and the hills of Pakistan." Palin will no doubt repeat GOP talking points about how Obama said he "would attack Pakistan."
9:47: Palin is now blubbering on about Iran and "Ackmudinigad" (learn how to say it, along with "nuquleur") - she might as well be a tape recorder, because she's giving identical answers to what McCain said six days ago. She's now talking about how Obama would meet with our enemies "without preconditions" and she's nearly bragging that she "had a good conversation with Henry Kissinger" - oh, I guess that's when she went on her afternoon tour of diplomacy at Columbia University, which gave Cliff Notes a bad name.
9:49: Biden is coming back at her about Iran; and he's forceful, articulate, and right on, especially when he talks about how "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not the most powerful person in Iran" - he's not - the religious leaders are. How would Palin know? She doesn't - only what McCain has put it her head during debate school during this past week.
9:52: Biden is now savaging the Bush administration about Israel, and I'd love to hear Palin's response - it will no doubt involve mentioning "hockey moms" or something, if she's off message for even a nanosecond.
First true Palin moment in the night - she has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA and NO ANSWER about the Bush administration's handling of Israel - she's talking about how the Obama/Biden ticket is "looking back," and a whole bunch of empty talk about bipartisanship, etc. This is a new low for her tonight - I could swear that Katie Couric just asked her that question.
I suspect that Palin just got knocked off her talking points about Afghanistan, and Biden should whip her on this.
9:56: Whoops! Biden beat back the straw woman that Palin just set up with her mindless talking points about Afghanistan.
9:58: Palin is coming back and trying to answer, but I just can't hear or see any credibility from her - she just has talking points. She certainly can't point to her record on foreign policy, because she has none, other than looking out at Russia from her window. *Snicker*
10:04: I could swear that Palin was at a beauty pagent when she just said, "You know, you can tell that I'm a Washington outsider," and then rehashed an attack on John Kerry "I was before it before I was against it." I was waiting for her to say "Aw shucks," while sweeping a foot in a semi-circle in front of her. She also said she "watched the [Democratic] debates," but I can just about guarantee that she only watched them a few days ago during her "Debate School."
10:07: Biden is now talking about "getting, capturing or killing" bin Laden - a strong point for the Democrats - it's an indefensible, inconvenient fact for the GOP.
10:10: Palin just referred to herself and McCain as "a team of mavericks" and she winked, again. Gimme a break.
10:11: Biden is talking about the destruction of the middle class, and he's right - it's shrinking by the day.
10:12: Palin just said, "Say it ain't so, Joe" - again, what a crock. She's trying to differentiate McCain from Bush, but it's b.s. - McCain has voted with Bush over 90 percent of the time during every year of his presidency. And she just winked, AGAIN. Vice presidents don't wink, governor, but she's merely the latest mastubatory fantasy of GOP men the world over, who are no doubt tired of the likes of the despicable Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter. (Did anyone consider them attractive, ever?)
10:15: Here comes the first fearless prediction of the night - Palin is trying her hand at self deprecation - how no one got her or Biden's joke about not wanting to be vice president.
10:16: I don't like Palin's characterization about the office of the vice presidency - that the Constitution offers "flexibility" in the office of the vice presidency. Is Cheney talking in her ear? The vice president is a member of the executive branch, period. Palin just got off message, saying she "agrees with vice president Cheney." Wow - that's a whopper - I do NOT like the fact that a candidate for vice president is looking for more power for the office, specifically after the most dangerous, reckless and downright scary vice president we've ever had.
10:18: Biden is ready - "Dick Cheney is the most dangerious vice president in the history of this country." Boom.
10:20: I have to give Biden credit here - he's not being baited by Palin's little tweaks.
10:22: Palin just said
Maverick for the umpteenth time (and once again!) - I think her record is skipping - someone should slap her in the back of the head. And she's said
Greed and Corruption on Wall St. at least six times. It's pretty clear she's out of things to say - good thing the debate is almost over, because Palin's
No Repeat Work Day is over.
10:25: They both are wrapping this up, and Palin's talking about cutting taxes, and I wish above all else that Biden would have hit her tonight about leaving Wasilla deep in debt when she was done with her two terms as mayor. Oh well - more points left on the table.
10:26: More mischaracterizations by Palin - she keeps mentioning "energy independence," which is a flat-out myth - America achieving energy independence through drilling is pure fantasy.
Her closing statement is a pretty big whopper - she's taking swipes at the mainstream media (a little Couric damage control, table 2). She also talks about Reagan (it has to be the sixth mention, at least), and more platitudes about cutting taxes that create jobs. First, those taxes have to be cuts to the right people, and by that I don't mean the wealthiest Americans.
10:28: Biden's closing remarks are pretty staid, steady and crisp - he's clearly talking to the America's middle class, citing what his father used to tell him, "Champ, when you fall down, you get back up," and he finishes by saying that America is ready to get back up, and it is.
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More post-debate thoughts in a bit.
Labels: 2008 Vice Presidential Debate, Joe Biden, Sarah Palin